My Flipping Investment



Hi I'm Bob Flippa and welcome to "This Old House Flip". We will be investigating detailed examples of flippers attempting to quickly make a profit buying and selling the "American Dream" of owning a home in the San Diego County area. This blog serves to educate potential buyers of the unscrupulous activies of these flippers and will hopefully save you money in the longterm.



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All San Diego County (2815)
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How the flippers got rich and how the buyers became fools.
This video sums up everything you need to know about interest only loans and why you should stay away from them. If you can't afford to by a home using a conventional 30-year mortgage then just rent. You are better off in the longterm.
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I recently recieved an email from Ben G. who wanted to expose a "flip gone bad" in Chula Vista.
1411 CAMINITO BORREGO UNIT#6, CHULA VISTA
These townhomes went on the market in 2002. Unit #6 is approximately 1,141 sq. ft. Two bedrooms, two baths, deck and attached one-car garage.
As I mentioned before, these homes sold in 2002 and were priced from the high $100,000s. In fact I pulled the brochure from the Union Tribune website:
This townhouse was sold on 5/25/2005 for $425,000 and was placed for sale by the current owner on 10/10/2006 for $350,000-$369,000.
The current owner evidently took out a 100% financed loan, because her agent listed it as a short sale.
The owner, lender and neighbors stand to take a huge hit here, a 13-18% hit in 18 months to be exact. This is unfortunate, however the story must be told to protect future buyers from these flippers.
Thanks Ben.
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The City of Chula Vista and Trimark Pacific Homes are making it possible for 1st - time buyers who meet certain criteria to purchase a new townhome in the San Miguel Ranch community of Chula Vista . In order to participate in this unique opportunity, all buyers must meet specific guidelines and requirements and be subject to ownership restriction during the period of ownership. Here is a brief overview of the qualifications for this program:
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It's time again to pick out a random community and select the best and worst values. This week we chose San Marcos. San Marcos is a fast growing community in North San Diego County. There have been many new homes built there since 2000, so it makes it a prime location for flippers.


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Finally, there are some folks that believe for you to qualify for a 100% financed loan of $750,000 you should not make less than $30K a year.....what a revelation!
This article from Inman news is interesting.....
By Marcie Geffner
Federal regulators recently suggested new guidelines for banks that originate certain types of high-risk mortgages. The banks, predictably, were not enthusiastic about the regulators' suggestions. But the regulators have it right: It's high time for banks to limit access to these mortgages and disclose the real risks to borrowers.
The suggested guidelines would require banks to qualify borrowers for financing on the basis of fully indexed interest rates for interest-only and payment-option loans and to consider the borrower's ability to repay not only the original loan amount, but also any additional principal that may result if interest-only or minimum payments are made.
Banks have objected that these guidelines would limit the number of people who can qualify for these loans. That's true and it's exactly the point. The borrower's ability to repay the loan should be a basic component of loan underwriting and to ignore it defies common sense. A borrower's ability to manage no more than just the interest-only or minimum payments should disqualify him or her from this type of loan since the payments will escalate when the loan is recast.
Reasonable guidelines will not keep everyone from obtaining these loans, but rather the loans will be reserved for those borrowers who have the ability to manage and repay the debt.
Banks also have suggested that borrowers may be frightened by disclosures that reveal how much higher their monthly payments would be in certain circumstances. Again, that's exactly the point: Borrowers who are frightened off by those higher payments shouldn't have these types of loans. Most home buyers naturally experience some anxiety about the financial commitment, but it's irresponsible to help people buy a home they are truly frightened they won't be able to afford.
Banks also have argued that the suggested disclosures should be required of all lenders, not just federally insured institutions. That's a good point too -- and a compelling argument for more regulation, not less. Once federal regulators set appropriate standards, state regulators can and should follow that lead. Some state-level regulatory groups already have signaled an intention to do so.
Interest-only and minimum-payment loans have helped many people purchase homes, but who benefits if those homeowners can't afford the higher payments and the property ends up in foreclosure? The homeowners lose while the lenders and mortgage brokers make out like proverbial bandits. The brokers have collected their commissions; the lenders have sold the loans, and the investors who purchased them are protected by mortgage insurance, which is, of course, paid for by the homeowners.
Interest-only and payment-option loans were supposed to be intended for sophisticated borrowers who could take advantage of the greater flexibility. The fact that so many of these loans were sold to people for whom they weren't intended begs an obvious yet important question: Why didn't regulators insist on tougher guidelines a long time ago?
It's equally easy to point an accusatory finger at supposedly greedy mortgage brokers, but neither the regulators nor the brokers are solely responsible. After all, the lenders created these loans and set up the compensation systems that rewardbrokers who push borrowers into these riskiest of mortgages.
It's fair to argue as well that some of the blame lies with the borrowers. Willful ignorance, irresponsible decisions, house envy, an insatiable desire for immediate gratification, blind trust and a sign-it-now-and-read-it-later-if-ever mentality have been magnified to an astounding degree and aren't a smart way to borrow hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Since those borrower frailties are apt to undo the benefits of additional disclosures, tighter underwriting guidelines are crucial. Those who are able to qualify will be able to obtain these loan products while those who can't, won't. It's really that simple, and the regulators, lenders, brokers and borrowers should make it happen. To mix a few metaphors, it's time for everyone to step up to the plate, be the first line of defense and get the responsibility ball rolling because it's the right thing to do.
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2718 E. BAINBRIDGE, POINT LOMA

Intially purchased on 5/27/ 2004 for $688,000 this flipper put his home for sale on 3/14/06 for $1,050,000. Yes, that is about a $360K profit in 22 months. The home is still on the market however, it is now priced for $900,000-$1,000,876.
These two flippers are in a fierce fight to find the next dummy to try to dump their properties on. They figured that they would list their homes in Spring and make quick sales by the Summer to get their tax exemption. Not gonna happen, not now, not tomorrow. Try reducing your asking price to $450K-550k.Posted by Bob Flippa at 8:56 PM 5 comments
San Diego County Market Conditions
Dave Harlan, Realtor North County: 10/5/2006
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Flippers are in a world of trouble, rising interest rates, tighter lending standards, smarter buyers have these greedy people heading down a slippery slope........
1591 COUNTRY VISTAS LN, BONITA

Realtor: "SHORT SALE-Pre Foreclosure Upon BANK Approval! This homes sits in the ever so popular area in Bonita on COUNRTY VISTAS LANE, surrounded by million dollare homes.This property requires some updating and has been very well maintained.A little TLC on this home is all it requires! "
The price: $700K!...........Lady Please. For $700K the house better be in tip-top condition with 5 acres of land, a barn and 10 horses, otherwise, I'll submit an offer to the auctioneer for $250K.
822-824 N. 42ND. SAN DIEGO

Realtor: "GREAT OPPORTUNITY, SHORT SALE, Subject to Lender approval. Pride of Owner, homes have been remodel through out. Homes are well groom in and out. Detach 2 car garage with plenty of parking space around. GO SHOW!! "
The price: $470K........All that missing in this house is a bench press and a bunch of free weights in the front yard. I would pay $470K-350K( The cost it would take to take your girlfriend out for dinner for the next 30 years so she won't see what a dump you live in.) = $120K.
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Finally, somebody willing to admit the obvious!
Moody's foresees a third of cities hit
By Mike FreemanUNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER
October 4, 2006
With home sales slowing and inventories of unsold homes rising, a new report predicts that housing prices will fall in about a third of the metropolitan areas in the United States, including San Diego. But the forecast by Moody's Economy.com, a private research firm, doesn't predict a crash in housing prices in a vast majority of the nation's cities, including San Diego.
The report, released yesterday, projects prices for new and resale single-family homes to drop 8.5 percent in San Diego from the market peak at the end of 2005 to the first half of 2008, when the market is predicted to hit bottom.
Prices have already declined locally in the first and second quarters of this year, said Brian Carey, an economist with Economy.com who worked on the report.
Sellers, particularly new-home developers, have been cutting prices as homes have lingered on the market and buyer demand has slowed. “They do have a lot of excess supply right now,” Carey said of San Diego.
The region, however, wasn't among the cities where prices are forecast to decline the most. It ranked 37th in the report. Danville, Ill., was projected to see the biggest percentage drop in home prices at 18.7 percent. It was followed by Fort Myers, Fla.; Reno, Nev.; Merced and Stockton.
Condos were excluded from Economy.com's forecast because it lacked good data, Carey said.
In areas like San Diego, however, condos may be more vulnerable than single-family homes to steep price declines because of the unprecedented construction of new units downtown and elsewhere, as well as a glut of condo conversions either for sale today or planned in the near future.
“We realize the condo market could be hit harder,” Carey said.
Nathan Moeder, an analyst with San Diego real estate consultant The London Group, said it's not surprising that home prices would be falling now that buyers are being cautious.
But he doubted that any forecast could accurately predict how much prices might drop. That's because it's difficult to say what the future holds for interest rates, job growth and other factors that contribute to housing demand.
“We've already seen adjustments by developers, not only with incentives but also price decreases because they have to sell their units,” said Moeder. “But is it going to drop zero or 10 percent? Who knows? Moeder added that if Economy.com is correct, an 8.5 percent decline would not be significant for most homeowners given the sky-high appreciation in San Diego since 2000.
The median home value for San Diego homes, adjusted for inflation, rose to $567,000 from $249,000 between 2000 and 2005, according to the U.S. Census Bureau. It was the largest increase among the country's biggest cities.
“Think about how much equity and paper wealth has been created for these people over the last five years,” Moeder said. “So an 8 percent decrease is not a big deal.”
Nationwide, Economy.com projects that the median sales price for an existing home will decline in 2007 by 3.6 percent, which would be the first decline for an entire year in home prices since the Great Depression of the 1930s.
The report projected that 133 of the nation's 379 metropolitan areas would suffer price declines.
That is quite a contrast from the past five years when low mortgage rates pushed sales to five consecutive annual records, and prices in the hottest sales areas skyrocketed.
The forecast is included in a 195-page report, “Housing at the Tipping Point.”
Some analysts are worried that the slowdown could become so severe that it could drag the entire country into a recession, much like the bursting of the stock market bubble in 2000 led to the 2001 slump.
The 133 areas with slumping prices are concentrated in the states of California and Florida and the Northeast corridor from southern Maine to just south of Washington, D.C., as well as boom areas of Nevada and Arizona and some depressed sections of the Midwest, such as Detroit.
Of the areas with falling prices, 72 were forecast to hit their low point by the end of this year, with the rest seeing a trough for prices in 2007, 2008 or even as late as 2009.
But even in areas that have already hit a low point for prices, the rebound isn't expected to occur quickly.
“Prices are going to go down and stay down for a while. It will take at least a couple of years to work off the excesses of the last decade,” said Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody's Economy.com and the principal author of the report.
The report described the current environment as a “correction” and not a “crash,” but it cautioned that there were downside risks that could make the slowdown more serious.
“We believe the housing downturn will weigh on the economic expansion, but will not break it . . . ” Zandi said.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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Listing _________Sq Ft ____Price _________Listed On
3419 Pleasant Vale___2705 ____$795,990 _________8/25/2006
3423 Pleasant Vale___2597 ____$745,990 _________6/26/2006
3424 Pleasant Vale___2705 ____$759,990 _________8/15/2006
3495 Pleasant Vale___2705 ____$710,000-$729,900 __9/26/2006 
3419 Pleasant Vale Dr is currently owned by the builder.
3423 Pleasant Vale Dr is currently owned by the builder.
3424 Pleasant Vale Dr is currently owned by the builder.
3495 Pleasant Vale Dr was purchased on 3/9/06 for $754,698. Seven months later and the seller is in the proverbial hole.
I love to see a flipper take one for the team and screw the builder at his own game. The lower the home sells for the tougher it gets for the builder to unload his remaining homes as this will have a negative mark on the comps in the area.
Good job 3495 PLEASANT VALE DRIVE.
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607 HILLSIDE WAY, SAN MARCOS, CA
This beautiful 3419 sq ft home with 5 Br and 4 Ba was purchased on 4/14/2005 for $785,000. A little over 16 months later (8/7/06) the seller decided to sell the home for $860,000.
I bet this seller told all her friends how easy it was to make a quick profit. I can just imagine:
"Yeah Julie, remember that house I bought last year? Yeah that one. I just put it on the market for about a 100K more that I paid for it. Oh ya it should go fast, there are so many idiots out there that think we are running out of homes."
Well, well, well...........not so fast. 55 days after listing this home this seller has dropped the price $185K to $675K. Looks like someone's 100% financed ARM is causing fits. No worries and take heart, you will not be the only one to suffer this fate for many already are lined up.
Are you next? I'm watching.
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This home was originally purchased on 10/28/2004 for $435,141. It was then flipped for $500,000 less the 6 months later on 2/16/05. It was flipped again 5 months after that for $560,000 on 7/22/2005.
The latest flipper orginally listed this home for sale for $630,000 on 4/24/2006. 160 days later the flipper has lowered his price to $530,000-$550,000. There's no more milk left here.
This is a great example of how these flippers attack the fabric of society and create a cycle of doom for families and hard-working Americans. You must not be their next victim: DO NOT BUY A HOME until the median price is San Diego County gets down to $350K.
Are you with me?
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554 VIA DEL CABALLO, 2358 sq ft (Belleza Tract) built in 2004
Purchase price: $585,000 9/28/2004
Listing price: $590,000 8/16/2006 reduced to $540,000
Here is the exerpt from the realtor:
"SHORT SALE! LAST APPRAISAL $590, 000.00 subject to lenders approval, Huge master bedroom. minutes from the heart of San Marcos and Restaurant Row, walkingdistant to Cal-State San Marcos home in great condition. BRING YOUR OFFERS. ALL OF THEM WILL BE CONSIDERED. "
The flipper got screwed. The lender got screwed. The neighbors get screwed and society gets screwed because of senseless greed while the builder is laughing all the way to the bank.
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Homes for sale: 158 listings
The Best Value:

2686 ILLION ST, SAN DIEGO, CA
Living Area: 1702 Sq Ft, 3BR, 3BA
Listing price : $569,000 (2178 sq ft lot)
Sale History:
09/04/2001: $353,000
04/08/1996: $189,500
Recent Comparables:

The Worst Value:



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I was absolutely shocked as I was driving on the freeway today when I listened to a commercial from Shea Homes offering to sell you old home if you buy a new one from them. This type of strategy was unheard of a few years ago. I guess it’s a wake up call to all the flippers out there that spells doom. It’s amazing that with all their resources the builders are struggling to unload their new homes.
The next year should be very interesting.
Here is the link to the article: http://www.realestatejournal.com/buysell/markettrends/20060919-simon.html
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The 11th District Cost of Funds index (COFI) is one of the most popular ARM indexes. This index is primarily used for ARMs with monthly interest rate adjustments. Because this index generally reacts slowly in fluctuating markets, adjustments in your ARM interest rate will lag behind another market indicators. Many lenders believe COFI-indexed ARMs are some of the best deals available on the market today. The 11th District COFI is a 2-month lagging index: the index value for a particular month is not reported until the end of the next month.
From the graph it is quite obvious that the COFI is under performing at 4.2% which combined with a 1-2% margin will save alot of folks from foreclosure however, it is trending up as soon as it gets over 5.5-6% the major crash will commence.
The chart below compares other indices with the COFI, what a huge difference in rates and in my estimation enough difference to cause this "house of cards" to fall over.

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Interesting article, the link is available, however here are some interesting points:
"The magnitude of the housing bubble is shocking and unprecedented. According to the Federal Reserves own figures, “The total amount of residential housing wealth in the US just about doubled between 1999 and 2006 up from $10.4 trillion to $20.4 trillion.”(Times Online) This tells us that the Fed had a clear idea of the size of the equity balloon their low interest policies were creating, but decided not to take corrective action. It also tells us that there will be no “soft landing”. When the market begins to fall, no one knows when it will hit bottom. $10 trillion is more than a “little froth”, as Greenspan opined; it is an earth-shaking, economy-busting catastrophe that will put millions at risk of foreclosure, bankruptcy and ruin. "
“The housing market has turned; it’s going to be down this year and even more sharply next year,” said Dan Meckstroth, chief economist an Arlington, Virginia-based trade group. (Reuters) As the housing bubble deflates, economic growth will slump, and the anticipated recession will steadily deepen. "
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This link from HomeSmartReports contains Home Flipping Statistics for 147 Metropolitan Statistical Areas (MSA’s). Contained in these statistics are Q2 2006 results, 5-year flipping percentages, median price gainers and losers forQ2 2006 and percentages of those who lost money in the flipping process.
Interesting numbers for San Diego:
San Diego-Carlsbad-San Marcos, CA:
% Flippers in last 5 years - 4.0%
% Flippers in 2006Q2 - 3.2% (profit of $48,250 on average)
% Flippers who lost money in 2006Q2 - 27.6% (loss of $37,250 on average)
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Seems a bit low?
Bob
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10545 VIACHA WAY, TIERRASANTA, CA
This flipper purchased this 3 br, 3ba, 2400 sq ft home on a 7200 sq ft lot for $745,000 in May 2004. In which he seriously over-paid. He listed his home for sale in April 2006 for $999,000.
I am not the smartest person in the world but this home is nothing special, honestly it's pretty average, yet somehow within 24 months of purchasing this home this flipper believes its worth over $250K more than he paid for it.
OK.......Lets do the calculation $250k/(365x2 days)=$342/day.
Are you with me here folks because this is an amazing stat. This flipper believes you should give him $342 a day for cooking, sleeping, dumping, and showering in his home for 2 years. How stupid is that?
Well my friends that says it all......Who ever buys the p.o.s. from this flipper is unoffically the dumbest person alive.
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From The Wall Street Journal Online
With the housing market clearly sagging, economists and investors are watching a variety of gauges to get a handle on the severity of the contraction.
Last week, the Commerce Department reported that construction starts on new homes dropped 6% in August from July, to an annualized 1.665 million. That "housing starts" figure was about 5% lower than forecast and 20% lower than the year earlier 2.075 million. The month-over-month decline was the sixth one this year and put housing starts at the lowest level in more than three years.
The government estimates housing starts by surveying a sample of people who have applied for building permits. In places where permits aren't required, the process includes driving around looking for new-home construction.
Other gauges track new-home sales, existing-home sales, median house prices and the inventory of unsold homes.
New-home sales for August will be released by the Commerce Department Wednesday, and are expected to be down about 17% from a year ago. July's sales were down 21.6% from a year earlier, to an annualized 1.072 million homes sold.
New-home sales figures reflect market trends more quickly than do existing-home statistics. That's because new homes are counted as sold when the contract is signed, and existing homes are counted as sold only when the deal closes, which may be 30 to 60 days later.
Existing-home sales data, coming Monday from the National Association of Realtors, are expected to be down about 13% from August 2005. The annualized rate of 6.33 million existing homes sold in July represented an 11.2% decrease from last year.
The median sales price of existing homes, which is a good indicator of the market's momentum, was $230,000 in July, up 0.9% from the July 2005 price of $228,000, according to the Realtors group. That's smaller than the double-digit year-over-year gains posted in 2005.
Some parts of the country, including the Northeast, the Midwest and the West, are reporting falling home prices. The Realtors association has said the national median house price may fall in coming months, although any decline is expected to be limited. August numbers will be announced with the existing-home sales figures Monday.
Meanwhile, there's been a spike in the number of existing homes for sale. The Realtors group says 3.86 million homes were on the market last month, up from 2.76 million a year earlier. In addition to reflecting a diminished appetite on the part of buyers, that growing inventory may reflect the unwillingness of sellers to lower their asking prices enough to tempt buyers. With more houses for sale, buyers have less incentive to bid up prices, and home builders have fewer reasons to start construction on more units.
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Good article just don't pay attention to anything said by the Realtors association, they always caveat everything they say so they can talk out of both sides of their collective mouths.
Bob
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Tuesday, September 26, 2006 Inman News
Home sales were down 30.1 percent in August compared to the same month last year, the California Association of Realtors trade group reported today, while the median existing-home price rose 1.6 percent to $576,360.
"We experienced the greatest year-to-year sales decline last month since August 1982, when sales fell 30.4 percent," said Vince Malta, C.A.R. president, in a statement. "This is another indication that we're in the initial stages of a long-anticipated adjustment in the market.
Some home sellers, he said, " are still clinging to price expectations that are no longer valid in today's market."
Closed escrow sales of existing single-family detached homes in California totaled 442,150 in August at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate, according to information collected by C.A.R. from about 90 local Realtor associations statewide.
The statewide sales figure represents what the total number of homes sold during 2006 would be if sales maintained the August pace throughout the year. It is adjusted to account for seasonal factors that typically influence home sales, the association reported.
The August 2006 median price increased 1.7 percent compared with July's revised $566,940 median price.
"Although the median price in the state and in several regions hit an all-time record in August, we expect softer prices toward the end of the year," stated Leslie Appleton-Young, C.A.R.'s vice president and chief economist.
"The median price typically peaks somewhere between June and August before declining toward the end of the year. Some areas of the state already have experienced year-to-year declines for more than two months. This is in stark contrast to the past several years when there were constant double-digit increases."
She also noted that 29 percent of homes are on the market for 30 days or less, compared with 51 percent a year ago, and the share of homes on the market for 90 days or longer has nearly quadrupled from 6 percent in August 2004 to 22 percent last month.
C.A.R.'s Unsold Inventory Index for existing, single-family detached homes in August 2006 was 6.8 months, compared with 2.6 months (revised) for the same period a year ago. The index indicates the number of months needed to deplete the supply of homes on the market at the current sales rate.
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Interesting article from San Diego Housing Commission. They include many shocking and absurd stats:
Increasing housing prices vs. incomes in San Diego:
To afford a median-priced house ($550,000) today in San Diego, buyers need an annual income of about $134,000, assuming a 10 percent down payment and a 30-year fixed-rate financing at current interest rates. But according to the San Diego Association of Governments the county’s median household income is $64,273 – less than half of what is needed to afford a median-priced home here. (The Daily Transcript/MarketPointe Realty Advisors, 2/15/06)
The San Diego Association of Governments estimates that 172,000 local employees, or 13 percent of the work force, earn less than $8.35 an hour.
San Diego County’s high housing prices, coupled with its relatively low wages, make it the third least affordable major metropolitan area in the country. (National Association of Home Builders, 2006)
The median price for existing houses for December 2005 was $550,000(San Diego Union Tribune/Data Quick Information Systems, 1/22/06) – as compared to a national median price of $211,000. (National Association of Realtors, 2/28/06)
The average new detached home in San Diego County sells for $861,759 – a 350 percent increase over 1996 ($245,884). (The Daily Transcript/MarketPointe Realty 2/15/06)
Meanwhile, in the past six years the median household income in San Diego increased only 21 percent for a family of four. (San Diego Union Tribune, 7/10/05)
According to the Federal Bureau of Labor Statistics, in the past year, San Diego lost 15 percent of its manufacturing jobs (which are typically higher wage than retail and hospitality jobs). (San Diego Business Journal, 6/27/05)
According to the California Employment Development Department, some of the largest increases in employment over the past year have been in the leisure, hospitality and food service industry. And according to Center for Policy Initiatives, the median hourly wage of such service workers is $8.50. (The Daily Transcript, 2/15/06)
A 2006 report from America’s Second Harvest, a national organization of emergency food providers, found that 35 percent of its clients seeking aid must often choose between paying for food and rent. In addition, 42 percent reported having to choose between food and household utilities and 32 percent had to choose between food and medical costs.
With all these statistics how can anyone think there is no housing bubble?
Posted by Bob Flippa at 9:56 PM 1 comments
My job takes me all over Southern California so I get to see how homes are priced from county to county. One thing that remains a mystery to me is how homes in areas of San Bernardino and Riverside Counties are priced higher than San Diego County.
It can’t be the location; God knows no one would want to live the torrid heat. It can’t be the job base, San Bernardino County has nothing but warehouses. It can be its easy access to LA, have you been on the 91, 60 or 10, forget about it. So what is it?
Well after much thought I have finally come to the conclusion that builders realize that San Diego consumers are better educated and will not succumb to excessively priced homes. Places like Corona, Colton, Redlands and Fontana have homes that are of the same size and quality for much more than homes in San Marcos, Escondido, Vista and Oceanside. That is not only ridiculous it is borderline criminal.
In San Bernardino and Riverside Counties builders have used shady lenders and shady lending practices to get buyers into homes that should be worth half of what you would pay in San Diego County. The builders and lenders should be ashamed of themselves for this unscrupulous behavior. Residents of these counties should know better than paying $800K for a home in Corona or Redlands and I don’t care how good the area you live in is.
Posted by Bob Flippa at 12:54 PM 0 comments
In celebration of Halloween, starting 1 Oct, I will be breaking down most cities and unicorporated areas in San Diego County. We will look at the best and worst in many categories and assign ratings for just how much homes are overpriced in that city and determine the all important "flipper activity meter".
We will unmask the flippers!
Stay Tuned.......
Posted by Bob Flippa at 4:24 AM 2 comments

Escondido, 2004…….
Phil is a smart man, and wanted to show his wife just how smart he was. "Honey, I just bought a house in Escondido!" His wife was ecstatic, “So how much do you think we will make this time sweetie?” Phil replied, “Plenty, just watch and learn.”
Today,….
Well Phil I hate to break it you but you’re our next feature story on “This Old House Flip”. Yes, you made it here because of you’re tireless efforts to screw people of their hard earned money.
The Details
Phil purchased 1529 Hornbean Gln, Escondido, CA in the Summer of 2004 for $505k. Phil thought he would stick it out for 2 years to avoid paying the capital gains tax. Well, Phil you’re too late. Phil originally listed his home for $495K on 6/5/2006. Now he is entertaining offers between $459,900-$479,900. Good for you Phil you have impressed your wife by sticking to your guns. However, you have been on the market for over 3 months, its time to start chopping again.
Thanks for playing the flipping game
Are you next?
Posted by Bob Flippa at 5:26 PM 0 comments
Ladies and Gents,
I present to you the Top 5 Flips Gone Bad in San Diego County. With the way the market is currently behaving this will no doubt be a living document always ever-changing.
I know there are much more sellers in worse situations however, this list maps homes all over the county basically signifying the wide-spread “flips gone bad” scenario is not isolated to one community and that no flipper is safe.
Post your list, lets compare.
Posted by Bob Flippa at 10:02 AM 2 comments
The owner of this home must be reading this blog. Almost a week after being featured on "This Old House Flip" the seller removed his range pricing of $729-764K and simply listed it for $755K.
Good move however, you will not sell this home for that price. Time is not on your side, the $563K you purchased the house for is only months away. If you don't believe me just ask your buddy at 5092 SEA MIST CT, SORRENTO VALLEY (This Old House Flip: Love Thy Neighbor?).
Posted by Bob Flippa at 9:48 PM 3 comments
5175 SEA MIST COURT , SORRENTO VALLEY
Love thy neighbor? Well, only if he doesn't bring down the price of my home.
The neighbor at 5175 SEA MIST CT (1902 sq ft at $649-699K) is about to royally screw his buddy at 5092 SEA MIST CT. 5092 committed the ultimate no-no in July 2005 when he purchased his 1902 sq ft home for $795K.
Can you imagine the hate these neighbors must have for each other? The constant monitoring of price reductions, the anxiety, the sleepless nights …..ohhhhh the heart ache. Well that is what happens when you either flip a house or make someone rich trying at the wrong time in the market.
As far as I am concerned anyone who purchased a home after mid-2004 will eventually go through that hell, its just a matter of time.
The big difference here is that 5175 purchased his home for $500K and can afford to come down and still make a handsome profit while completely and utterly devastating his neighbor.
Lesson learned: If you live by the sword, not only will you die from it but you will have an agonizing death.
Posted by Bob Flippa at 8:09 PM 2 comments
I must admit that America’s finest city is also America’s most sensible city. While home prices reached unpractical levels, especially in the condo arena, San Diego is coming to the realization that these prices are unsustainable and unwarranted, thus the record home inventory we see today. While still pricey, a home in San Diego County is much more bearable than Orange, Ventura and LA counties. Sellers in these counties have simply ignored the “birthing pains” of this inevitable bubble.
Many-a-days I sit down open up my laptop a scroll through many real estate sites and notice that San Diego sellers are chopping prices; $675K to $629K to $599K…etc. While the prices are still high, this signals a change in the mindset of the typical seller. Sellers in LA, Orange, and Ventura counties have yet to acknowledge this reality. They simply don’t get it! Record inventories, higher interest rates, higher gas prices and a recessive economy has made only a minor dent in the thick skulls of these myopic sellers. Homes in these counties that have been on the market for over 6 months have only seen minuscule price reductions.
I ask my fellow buyers in these counties to also hold off buying in these ridiculously overpriced areas. If you don't do this for yourselves, do it for your children and grandchildren who may never own a home if this ludicrous behavior is allowed to continue.
Remember this word to the wise: What’s the use of having a home if you’re never at home to enjoy it and spending all day at work trying to pay for it?
Posted by Bob Flippa at 8:25 AM 7 comments
All of us in San Diego County have been subjected to those infamous words one time or another….”the seller is willing to entertain offers between” -- his get you in the door price and the actual price he is looking for. I remember when I was foolish enough to look for a home in 2004 in North County. I found a home in Rancho Bernardo that was selling between $499K-$569K. I put in a fair offer of $510K and the sellers were insulted that I came in on the low end and did not even counter. That was it for me! Renting was in my future. I refused to assimilate!
Times have changed…..Sellers now will accept anything within their range and will do so gladly. I ask you buyers to keep a stiff upper lip and not buy anything until the median home in SD county goes down to $350K. We must teach these greedy home wreckers a lesson in humility and in humanity. Buying a house shouldn’t be about making a profit it should be about making a family and a home. My generation has been stripped of that opportunity, but we will not wilt.
In conclusion, I ask you to entertain this, for our profit is living a simple and peaceful life.
Posted by Bob Flippa at 8:33 PM 9 comments
3475 MOON FIELD DR , CARLSBAD, CA
This flipper purchased this home June 2005 for $693,451. She listed it for sale in May 2006, less than a year after the purchase, for $779,475. Well, a mere 142 days after listing her home this flipper has reduced her price to $695,000-$715,000.
Even at $715K this flipper is at least $20K in the hole after realtor fees, taxes, and closing costs. But it will not be so easy to unload this home because of the HOAs/Mello-Roos fees of over $250 per month. I can understand paying this much for a condo, but for a $700K home that you barely qualified for is ludicrous.
I don’t think I will ever understand this flipper mentality, it goes without saying that this foolish risk taking will eventually catch up to you and bite you over and over again.
Posted by Bob Flippa at 8:17 PM 0 comments

Originally purchased in Jan 2005 for $563K this flipper believes that he is entitled to screw people of their hard-earned money because had the privilege of taking dumps in this house for the last 20 months.
With an asking price of $729,000 -$769,000 for the 2647 sq ft home, this flipper stands to make a cool $166K-$206K on the idiot that buys this over-inflated p.o.s.
Excuse my language but I am tired of seeing these flippers taking advantage of naive buyers who think the sky is falling. There is no reason this home is worth more than he paid for it. Honestly, he should be lucky to break even on this home.
....BREAKING NEWS........
The seller has reduced his asking price to $729,000 -$764,000. That should get the wagons circling the house. Lets see how much this one is reduced, I have a feeling it will go under $600K. 606 CARNATION (2517 sq ft) sold for $610K on Aug 2006.
Posted by Bob Flippa at 8:51 PM 3 comments
Lets look at the best and worst deals of the current marketplace. By best, I really mean best of the over-inflated market we live in. OK, lets not waste time: and the winners are:
For the worst deal in San Diego County:
552 GENTER ST. LA JOLLA, CA
For a mere $1,115,000-$1,200,000, you can have the priviledge of knocking down this 876 sq ft dingbat that currently stands on a 3500 sq ft lot. On the market now for 54 days, this beauty gives you the right to say "I live in La Jolla".
I can't imagine that in 30 years when the new owners of this beauty finally pay it off they can say say this home is worth over a million dollars. This is a real reverse mortgage.
For the best deal in San Diego County:
1818 NAVAJO PL ESCONDIDO, CA
In a relatively good area of Escondido, CA this 2051 sq ft home on 0.4 acre lot is priced at $374,000 and has been reduced from $399,000. On the market now for 8 days, this should get some attention.
Posted by Bob Flippa at 1:25 PM 4 comments
579 DUNDEE LANE, SAN MARCOS, CA
Current status is unknown, will do some digging.
1545 CRICKET DRIVE, CHULA VISTA, CA
16 days on the market and counting, looks like the seller should be contemplating a price reduction in a week or two.
2923 FARRAGUT RD, POINT LOMA, CA
53 days on the market and counting, the huge price range is a stupid idea, the seller needs to stick with a single price and negoitate from there.
Posted by Bob Flippa at 1:14 PM 1 comments

617 BUSH LANE is the one of the first newer homes (built in 2006) in San Marcos, CA over 2100 sq ft to be priced under $500K. This is a big step in correcting a ridiculously over-inflated market in North San Diego County. This will no doubt cause a few sleepless night for nearby adjacent communities. At $499,900 and at 2120 sq ft of living space the price per sq ft yields approximately $235 sq ft. This does fall in my range of $200-250 sq ft in this area. It has been on the market for 4 days, lets see if this sells fast or labors in a exceeding tough buyers market.
Posted by Bob Flippa at 12:27 PM 4 comments